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- Bethesda demands seller remove his copy of The Evil Within 2 from Amazon Marketplace
- 21 Things We Learned About Fallout 76 Today
- Fortnite Streamer 'Ninja' Reveals Why He Doesn't Stream With Female Gamers
Bethesda demands seller remove his copy of The Evil Within 2 from Amazon Marketplace Posted: 12 Aug 2018 06:04 AM PDT 'People sell used games all the time...We're not trying to stop that.' Early yesterday morning, Polygon reported that Bethesda had issued a cease and desist order to Amazon marketplace seller Ryan Hupp, for his listing of a sealed copy of The Evil Within 2. Bethesda's case was that Hupp was not an "authorized reseller," and that his sale of the game as new was "unlawful." That issue seems to stem from the wording of "new" in the store description, since Bethesda is claiming Hupp should have the item listed as "used." Bethesda's legal firm, Vorys, sent the letter to Hupp and threatened to take action should he not comply. Hupp told Polygon that he has previously sold goods on the Amazon Marketplace with no issue. He even brought up the US Law of "First Sale Doctrine," which protects users looking to resell legal copies of trademarked products they have previously purchased. According to Bethesda, though, Hupp's sale of the product is not covered by the law. Since he isn't reselling his copy in what Vorys considers its original form, the game is "materially different from genuine products" as far as Bethesda is concerned. Hupp provided the legal document to Polygon, which reads:
Since this story just happened to break out during the weekend of QuakeCon 2018, Eurogamer felt it proper to ask Bethesda directly at the event. Speaking with Pete Hines (Senior Vice President of Marketing and Communications), writer Robert Purchase got this response:
Hines then explained how Hupp could have opened the game, used it for a couple of hours and then resealed the package. For that matter, all warranty cards or special codes for pre-order DLC could have been used and Hupp could be deceiving users by claiming the product is "new". If any of that had happened, then the game should be listed as "used" to prevent other people from being scammed. Hines then went on to stress, "We're not trying to stop anybody from selling used games. People sell used games all the time - we understand that. We're not trying to stop that...We don't want our customers buying stuff from a vendor like Amazon where they think they're buying a new product and suddenly finding out they got a disc that's been played, somebody kicked across the floor and scratched." I'm not a legal expert, but I'm pretty certain one can buy any product and then resell it without having opened the packaging. From my short time working at GameStop, I do know it specifically has a policy where it will not take trade-ins if the products are sealed, but that is in an effort to cut down on store theft. Unless Hupp has tossed his receipts and has no proof of purchase, he should be legally protected to sell his copy of The Evil Within 2 regardless of whether or not it is still sealed. On the other hand, I definitely see Bethesda's point of view on this. While I don't believe it should be threatening legal action against resellers, I would hate to be on the receiving end of what I assumed is a "new" game only to find out someone had previously opened it. Consumers tend to buy new products specifically because they are sealed and should be 100% functional (barring manufacturing defects). For the time being Hupp has removed his copy of The Evil Within 2 from Amazon. Speaking directly to Polygon, Hupp stated, "I understand the legal arguments Bethesda are relying on, and accept that they have some legitimate interest in determining how their products are sold at retail, but threatening individual customers with lawsuits for selling games they own is a massive overreach." Bethesda blocks resale of a secondhand game (update) [Polygon] |
21 Things We Learned About Fallout 76 Today Posted: 11 Aug 2018 10:55 AM PDT QuakeCon 2018 hosted a Fallout 76 panel today, and it was chock full of tidbits of information about the upcoming game. The panel was composed of Development Director Chris Mayer, Project Lead Jeff Gardiner, and Game Director Todd Howard. Split evenly between a talk about the game’s leveling system and a longform segment where the team answered common questions about the game, the panel was very informative about what the actual experience of Fallout 76 is going to be like. You can watch the full video here, or you can read my distillation of all the fun facts below. Note that you need to skip 40 minutes into the official video to see the panel. Here’s some of the stuff we learned.
And that’s it! It’s kind of a rollercoaster of Fallout 76 information, but it’s the biggest information splash that we’ve had about the game since E3, and it gets me thinking about two dozen other questions I have about how this will actually work in practice. |
Fortnite Streamer 'Ninja' Reveals Why He Doesn't Stream With Female Gamers Posted: 11 Aug 2018 01:15 PM PDT Internet trolls, gossip and rumor culture, and the constant scrutiny that comes with fame has led Fortnite and Twitch's most popular streamer, Tyler “Ninja” Blevins, to take a position to not stream with female gamers. “I don’t play with female gamers,” said Blevins while speaking with Polygon. And according to the face of Fortnite streaming, it has to do with with the aforementioned rumor culture, the era of clickbait, and how when you have millions of viewers watching you, everything is dissected, everything is prone to be misinterpreted, and even as something as small as a conversation with a female streamer during a stream can be morphed into a storm of gossip that produces fallacious and defacing conclusions. “If I have one conversation with one female streamer where we’re playing with one another, and even if there’s a hint of flirting, that is going to be taken and going to be put on every single video and be clickbait forever,” said Blevins. And this makes sense coming from Blevins, who is married, and thus unsurprisingly doesn't want fictitious Internet rumors floating around about misconduct on his part. Because, like the streamer notes, even having a conversation with a female streamer can be skewed into all types of messy headlines. And we see this type of activity on the Internet all the time. As Polygon notes, when another prominent Twitch and Fortnite streamer, Ali “Myth” Kabbani, had Imane “Pokimane” Anys on stream, viewers quickly began firing off and probing about the two's relationship, as well as making all types of conclusions based off the two merely streaming together. And not only is the gossip machine common, it's not anything new. TMZ, People Magazine, and others have made an entire lucrative industry of gossip for decades. So, it's only natural the bigger streaming and online personalities get, the more gossip, rumors, and silly speculation they attract. It's classic celebrity culture. And it's not surprising that Blevins wants to stay far away from its grasps, and not complicate his martial relationship with its insanity. Blevins adds that he hasn't received any negative feedback from his fellow Twitch (female) streamers about his streaming policy, suggesting they understand the situation, and thus respect his decision. “There hasn’t been a single female gamer or streamer on Twitch or anything like that who’s been upset about that,” said Blevins. “I honestly think that [...] it’s just kinda like a respect thing.” The best way to avoid trampling gossip crowds, the rumor-sellers, and the invasive speculation, is to never invite them to the party in the first place. And the only way to do that, unfortunately, is to not stream with any female gamers, unless of course that female gamer is Blevin's wife, whom he streams with regularly. 0comments“The only way to avoid that [gossip] is to not play with them at all.” Hopefully one day, the obtrusive, prodding, and wildly speculative nature of the Internet and large fan bases will change, but at the moment, that doesn't look likely. |
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